Saturday, February 4, 2023

Conversations with an Instagram scammer

This is a transcript of a conversation with a scammer. I have added in some notes along the way so you can spot the patterns they use. Don't be fooled. If you are direct messaged by someone on Instagram (as this was), Twitter, Facebook or any other social media platform then you need to check a few things before you interact with them, and if you decide you are going to interact with them there are definitely signs that will tell you they aren't who they say they are. This one had a very small number of followers, around 20, but many of them will have even fewer followers. They will likely also have very few posts, this one had one reel. As it wasn't claiming to be a celebrity (i report and block obvious impersonator scammers immediately), I decided to see what their particular brand of scam was. I play along without revealing any information that it isn't possible to find elsewhere on the internet about me. They don't do much research, though, because this one was on Instagram, as I mentioned above, and one of the statements in my bio there literally says "distracting scammers since forever." Go figure!

Read along, have a laugh, and let me know what scammers you've come across in your social media travels. White text is scammer, blue text is me, grey text ~ like this ~ is my commentary.


January 25, 2023 1:00 am

Hello
Good morning from here
Your profile looks so amazing and I love your photography works

Thank you

I’m so excited you replied me. Which heavens do you come from coz you do look like an angel concerning one of your pictures out there 😁😁😁

~ You can see they are being gushingly over the top about me and it's the first interaction. This is really common. They are trying to disarm you ~

Where are you from??

Australia.                                                                                        

What about you? Where are you from?                                            

I’m from Los Angeles California

Where in Australia ?

Sydney

What do you do for a living?

I work as an Engineer
I’ve worked in many states and also I was in Sydney some months back

What about you?
I guess you’re a photographer

Photographer, writer, sports coach. Have also been a carer for people with disabilities and a risk assessor.

❤️

Were you working when you came to Sydney?

Replied to you

Photographer, writer, sports coach. Have also been a carer for people with disabilities and

a risk assessor.

You’re amazing

Replied to you

Were you working when you came to Sydney?

Yes I was

How old are you ? 

Asking basic questions like you would in online dating ~

43. You?

I’m 45

Married? Kids?  

I was once married but got divorced 7 years ago after my wife cheated on me while I was away on business. She brought a man into my house not knowing I’d arrive sooner than she expected. It’s been very difficult finding true love ever since as most of the women I meet aren’t ready to settle down and build a meaningful relationship. I have a daughter, Susan.

~ The sob story involving the cheating wife and child. The time since divorce is slightly longer than the average scammer, that's normally in the 2-3 year range, but they will say anything. ~

What about you ?

Never married. No long term relationships. One kid, though he’s not a kid anymore.

How old is he ?

18

How old is your daughter?

She will be 7 by April

Oh, that’s a cute age

Thank you

Do you mind me seeing more pictures of you ?   

~ This might seem innocent enough, but your photos can be used to scam others or pretend to be you to get money out of banks, etc ~

Cause I wanna start my day seeing beautiful creatures ❤️                  

And I forgot to mention                                                                         
I spent my leisure time in the Gym also

I mean, there’s a couple on my page, you might just need to scroll down a bit

You replied

And I forgot to mention
I spent my leisure time in the Gym also

I work in a gym, so spend as little leisure time there as possible πŸ˜‚

I know beautiful
I just want some recent pictures of your beautiful face

Replied to you

I work in a gym, so spend as little leisure time there as possible πŸ˜‚

You don’t mean it ? 😳

Why?

I would love to see

Okay hold on
Let me send you mine

{two pictures of him}

Nice tattoos

Thank you very much

{picture of me}     

~ Only send pictures that are already available of you on a social media platform already ~

❤️                                                                

Omg 😳
This is really something totally different ❤️❤️❤️

YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL !!!!

I love your smile 😊

Thanks. I think I’m pretty average, but appreciate the compliment.

Not average
You’re more far than average

You’re a Queen πŸ‘Έ ❤️

Thank you.

You’re welcome

Anyway, time for me to go to bed, hopefully we can chat again some time.

Yes please

I will always love talking to you everyday of my life most beautiful one ❤️

When do you get up from bed beautiful one ?

Depends on what time I start work. Shift work means all different start times.

What time are you starting work in the morning ?

Or let me ask, what time would my beautiful one be here on Instagram ?

And I’ll be right here waiting for you

I’m not sure, probably in about 8 hours?

I’ll be here waiting ❤️❤️

 

January 25, 2023 3:47 pm

My Queen

~ The use of a pet name is an attempt to make them seem more devoted to you. In reality, they just don't need to remember a whole stack of actual names if they call all of their victims the same pet name ~

The most beautiful woman ❤️

Hi

 

January 25, 2023 6:27 pm

How have you been ?

I’m sorry I’m just getting back home

Work was very hectic today

 

January 25, 2023 8:19 pm

Hey, just finished work. Going to have dinner in a few minutes, then I’ll be around.

I’m glad you’re still here

And I’m still here also waiting

Take your time Beautiful one ❤️

Hope you enjoyed your dinner ?

It’s still cooking

What do you wanna take ?

I don’t understand the question

I mean what are you having for dinner ?

Schnitzel and sautΓ© potatoes and salad

Yummy πŸ˜‹

It will be

Lol

So, isn’t it really late at night there?

Yes it’s in the mid of the night

Don’t you have to get up for work in the morning?

I will be going late

Thank you for your concern

❤️

No worries, just don’t want you getting in trouble

Aww thanks for your concern

It’s a public holiday here tomorrow so I’ve got the day off

Oh that’s good

What are your plans ?

Going to the beach, the local council put on a concert and maybe fireworks

I think something has been wrong with my eyes ever since you sent me your picture

Why?

Cause I can’t take them off you

πŸ˜‚ flattery will get you everywhere, apparently

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜

You’re sweet

Until you get to know me, then I’m an annoying mess

Four and four become eight, but you and I can be fate.

Replied to you

Until you get to know me, then I’m an annoying mess

I want to get to know you

You want me to be an annoying mess? πŸ˜‚ interesting tactic

Lol

So, what are you expecting from talking with me? (It’s lovely that you are, I’d just like to know where you think this might head.)

Well I’ll really want us to know each other more than this

As friends, yeah?

Hmmm
What if I want more than just friends ?

I don’t know how that would work

Well it will 😍

~ They will never give details that don't further their agenda. How would a long distance relationship work if you've never met? It just will ~

I’ll cook you dinner if you cook me breakfast. Deal?

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

We live on different continents πŸ˜‚

I know that πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I have a question for you

Ok

And you must give me an answer

I’ll do my best

How does it feel to be so gorgeous?

πŸ˜‚ I’ll let you know how it feels when I feel gorgeous

You’re gorgeous sweetheart

I’m not, but thank you

You are

I like you

Thanks. I like you, too. I think you’re wrong, and you should get your eyes checked, though πŸ˜‚

You really wanna know how gorgeous you are right now ?

I’m not sure …

Please let me show you

As long as it’s not an inappropriate picture, sure, go ahead

Thank you

Do you have a mirror right there ?

Yes

This is very corny, looking at myself won’t change my mind πŸ˜‚

Just do what I say
😊

Ok

Are you looking at the mirror right now ?

Yes

Give the mirror a smile 😊

Did you?

Yes

You’re looking at a wonderful creature, brought to this earth to flourish, to make wishes come true, to be strong, to be Sweet just like your self.. been Gorgeous is not only by how pretty you are outside, it’s how pretty you are inside...
Smile my Lady, cause you’re Gorgeous ❤️❤️❤️

~ The idea that if they tell you you're beautiful enough times, you'll think they really are in love with you, is really common. Don't be fooled. They don't care what you look like. You could look like the back of a bus, they will still tell you you're cute ~

You’re very sweet. It didn’t work, but I appreciate the effort.

Thank you 😊

Have you had your dinner ?

Yes, it was delicious

You must be a very nice cook

My mum is a very nice cook. I can’t cook unless it’s something to do with eggs

Oh okay

You love eggs?

I do, but I love food generally

Lol

I do love food, though. Doesn’t matter if it’s dodgy food van stuff after a night out, or gourmet 5 star restaurant. It’s all good.

Oh very nice

What’s your favourite meal?

Italian food

Oooh, pasta! Love it.

Really ?

Yeah. Spaghetti, rigatoni, vermicelli, love it all. Nice bolognaise or Alfredo sauce.

~ transitions between parts of conversations will be really stilted. Most of the scammers have English as a second language so their grammar, spelling and general conversational skills will be lacking to various degrees ~

So tell me
Do you seek for any relationship on here ?

Relationship is a very loose term. Friendship, sure. Romantic? Not looking for it but if it finds me, I’ll go with it.

What if it has found you already ?

You mean yourself?

Yes

Well, like I said earlier, I don’t know how it would work. Long distance is really difficult and I’m not moving to America. Nor would I marry an American (for tax reasons, it’s really stupidly complicated).

Well I really don’t see distance as a barrier in a relationship cause I’m willing to relocate to wherever I find true love. please give me the opportunity of getting to know you better and I promise I’m definitely gonna take care of the distance

~ Of course distance isn't a problem, they have no intention of following through with anything they promise ~

I’m happy to get to know you but I’m not making any promises. I take things slowly.

I’m glad you’re happy to know me and I’m also happy to know you too

Yes I’m ready to take things slowly with you till I get it fast
Lol

πŸ˜‚

Have you dated since your divorce?

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

No I’ve not
I’m actually scared but I need true love

What about you

It’s been about 3 years since I’ve been on a date

What happened to your last date ?

He went back to his ex wife

Oh I’m sorry

It wasn’t that serious between us, and with the covid lockdowns he didn’t want to get isolated away from his kids, which was understandable.

Oh okay

I want to be with you forever

I know I can

What about your daughter?

She live with my sister in Wisconsin. My sister has been playing the motherly role for my kid cause her mom has passed away. I told my sister to stop working so that she can concentrate on my kid and her kids. I take care of her bills and her needs. She has just been wonderful and helpful

~ for some reason, scammers are never an active parent. Their children are always being looked after by a relative because of their job which requires them to travel a lot. Be on the look out for US military, oil rig worker, miner, or engineer as a profession of choice for scammers ~

But moving have a world away from her would be difficult for both of you.

If I was to buy a house in Australia, Can you live with I and my Daughter in Australia ?

If things got to that point, yes, it’s a possibility.

~ at this point I absolutely knew it was a scammer and not a catfish, so I started to play into their story a little. I don't recommend doing this if you use your real name online ~

Yes!!
Yes!!
Yes!!

Don’t start packing yet, that’s a long way off and not guaranteed.

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I’m not Packing right now

πŸ˜‚

Good, coz I’ve got nowhere to put you right now anyway πŸ˜‚

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I want you to put me beside your heart ❤️

Awww, but that’s where my lungs live πŸ˜‰

I will keep them with me safe and sound

so, you travel around for work. Where’s the most interesting place you’ve been?

I’ll say Sydney Australia

I spent an addition 2 weeks after I was done with work

Hahaha πŸ˜‚

Really? Maybe coz I live here, but that’s not all that interesting.

Then I’ll say Portugal

Lol it won’t be anything special to you cause you live there

Oh, I’ve not been to Portugal. What’s it like?

I love the people there

They’re lovely

And very friendly

I haven’t done much travelling on mainland Europe. Only Germany when I was a kid.

I was in Germany 2017

I was there in 1987

Wow
With family ?

Yeah. My dad was German. We were visiting his family.

That’s amazing 😍

Yeah, I don’t remember much of it. A few bits and pieces. Need to go back and see more, though.

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You can

If I could afford it, I would

We will together
Someday

Hope you’ve got deep pockets, travelling anywhere from Australia is expensive.

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Really?

It’s a 5 hour flight to our nearest neighbours from Sydney and to get anywhere not in the pacific is more like 10+ hours. Airfares are expensive.

 

January 26, 2023 5:27 am

Good morning from here beautiful one

I’m sorry I slept off

~ again, the poor grammar will be a strong indicator that English is not their first language. This is especially important if they are claiming to be born and bred in an English speaking country, even if they were raised by non English speakers ~


January 26, 2023 10:13 am

I figured you’d fallen asleep.

 

January 26, 2023 1:35 pm

Most beautiful ❤️

Hi, how are you?

How are you doing ?

I miss you 😘

Good. I slept in. Had cheese and crackers for lunch.

You replied

I miss you 😘

You don’t. It’s been less than 12 hours.

How was your lunch ?

Replied to you

You don’t. It’s been less than 12 hours.

Believe me when I say I do

Lunch was good.

😌

What are you up to today ?

Beach, concert, fireworks. It’s Australia Day.

~ remember, I told them less than 12 hours ago what my plans were. For someone who claims to miss me and be in love with me, this is a pretty poor effort ~

Your day will be filled with a lot of fun

Hopefully

I would love to see beautiful pictures of you today ❤️

Please πŸ˜“

I’m not really a picture taking kind of person

I understand you my lady but please just try to take some for me

I don’t know you, so I think you can manage with what you have.

Come on beautiful

Please I want one from a beautiful one like you

Give me a change to proof my worth and love to you ❤️

If you can’t take no for an answer over something this simple, then that’s something you have to work on.

I’m sorry if I’m going too far my beautiful one

I really don’t understand why guys think that this approach works. This over the top, declaring love after 24 hours, move to the other side of the planet thing is full on enough.

I don’t understand you

We’ve been chatting for about a day. In that time, you’ve been over the top in complimenting me, you’ve told me you want to be with me forever, said you’d move not just yourself but your child as well to the other side of the planet and asked for multiple pictures.

It’s not normal behaviour if you’re romantically interested in someone, especially if you don’t know them in real life and have had no other interactions with them.

I’m been plain with you
I would never use my word to hurt you
I would never do that

It doesn’t hurt me. I just find it bizarre. It doesn’t make you seem genuine.

~ I gave them the perfect opportunity to cut and run. I basically told them I didn't think they were legitimate and that their behaviour wasn't normal. Some will take the hint here. This one didn't ~ 

 

January 26, 2023 8:51 pm

I’m sorry

I’ll try not to push hard

Thank you 😊

 

January 27, 2023 3:25 pm

How’s your day going Beautiful ?

Pretty good so far. How about you?

I’m good too
Thanks

What are you up to?

Wanna prepare dinner

What are you having?

Just some sandwich

What are you having on the sandwich?

Sweet Potato Fries

Nice

 

January 27, 2023 5:21 pm

Thank you

Now I can talk with you

Tell me how has been your day ?

Very lazy, just sitting around writing programs for work.

Oh okay

What are your plans for the weekend?

Work
I’ll be at work

What about you ?

Work and playing softball

~ I deliberately threw in the reference to very specific sport that someone from LA should know. even if they aren't particularly interested in the sport, a genuine person will probably ask about it ~

 

Saturday 3:29am

My beautiful Angel

Hello. How are you?

I’m doing good
How are you doing ?

Just about to go to sleep, but I’ve got a few minutes for you

Thank you very much I appreciate that

How was your day ?

Good. Long. But good.

What did you do today ?

Just worked from home doing admin

That’s good

What did you have for dinner

Steak and veggies

Okay

I think I’m having a mutual feelings for you

How do you mean?

I want you to be the Queen I’ve been looking for

That’s very sweet but I’m not sure it’s possible to know that considering the short time we’ve known each other and the fact we haven’t met in person.

There’s one thing you can’t tell about feelings

I just don’t like rushing into things. You can have amazing chemistry with someone online and then when you meet there’s not even a tiny spark.

That’s not to me
My feelings don’t lie to me
I mean it whenever I’ll tell you I love you or whenever I tell you I want you

I’m glad you’re sure of your own feelings. But I’ve been on enough first dates to know that it’s incredibly difficult to predict who you will actually click with.

But you know you already like someone when you see what they look like
It works also in other cases too

Not always. I know some smoking hot dudes who I wouldn’t want to get into a relationship with. Physical attraction is not always love.

Okay
Do I look hot or I’m not even you type of man to you ?
I want to know πŸ₯Ί

I don’t date based on looks. I date based on personality because someone who is, by societies standards, average looking can be extremely attractive because they are have a good sense of humour, are smart, are creative, are a good person.

Me too

But when I grow feelings it’s different

Having said that, there’s nothing wrong with how you look, you’ve got a nice physique, I like the tatts.

I have to go to sleep now. But I want you to know it does make me happy that you like me and I hope even if things don’t become romantic between us that we can be friends.

~ again, throwing in the "we can be friends" vibe. This is a really obvious case of friend-zoning by me and with a real person would usually tip them off to the fact that this isn't going anywhere, and should tip a scammer off to the fact that I'm not going for the romance scam ~ 

 

Sunday 5:15pm

My Queen

How has you weekend been?

Good
Thank you

How about yours ?

Pretty good. Better if it weren’t so hot

Oh sorry

What have you been up to ?

Worked for a couple of hours yesterday, then was down at softball for 6 hours so that was exhausting, but good fun.

That’s good

~ notice the complete ambivalence to the fact I was anywhere besides work for 6 hours. They don't ask how I went, or show any interest whatsoever - because they don't care, it doesn't further their agenda ~

My Queen

I can’t stop thinking about you

Good thoughts, I hope

Yes and you’ve taken over my mind

I want every bit of you

Ok. What does that mean?

What it means is that, I want you to be the woman of my dreams

I can’t just get you off my head

But practically, what does it mean? It’s not like we can go on a date and see what the chemistry is like in person.

Sweetie
We will definitely do that
I will want to go on a date with you

But that is a long way off both in terms of time and distance.

Sweetie, if we are been patient
Everything will come in place

You’re very optimistic. And I am very patient. Things will turn out as they are supposed to.

Yes and I’m very much happy that I’m getting so much attention from you

I was very scared at first

Why scared?

Cause I’m scared of confessing my love to you

I think I overcame my fears

~ see how brave they were? Confessing their love to someone clearly out of their league! It's meant to be endearing but the image I have is of a dude in a call centre, playing solitaire while they chat to 5 different women at the same time ~ 

I still don’t think you can know that you love someone after that short period of time (and not having met) but maybe infatuated or have a crush on someone.

I want you to know something
You can tell or predict feelings

Please don’t think I can’t love you

You’re special to me believe me

If you believe it, then that’s great. But that’s not how my feelings develop. I’ve been hurt too many times to rush into anything. So I will be patient and let my feelings show when they are ready.

You’ve been hurt?
By who?
😑

You don’t deserve we to be hurt

You’re a Queen

~ The audacity of someone not finding the object of their scam supremely attractive! They are outraged! No. Really. Outraged. ~ 

Everyone has been hurt by someone at some point in their lives. Ex boyfriends are ex’s for a reason.

I’ll never hurt a Queen like you and my love is forever not just for a main time

I don’t think most people plan on hurting anyone, but it happens. Just breaking up can hurt.

That’s why I’m not promising you a while
I’m promising you a long life time my Queen

Give me the chance to proof this love to you my queen

How would you prove it to me?

Sweetheart I will tell the whole world how special you’re to me and I will love you and never hurt you

I promise sweetie

Ok, I will hold you to that promise

Please hold on to it and you’ll see I’ll never hurt you or cheat on you

I hope not. But there’s something you should know before you get too involved with me.

~ this is where I decided to have a bit of fun. While I'm not poly, I have been told by someone who is that I don't fit neatly into societal norms when it comes to monogamy, so I may have exaggerated this slightly to see how far I could push it ~

Okay please let me know

I believe in loyalty but not necessarily monogamy. So, your definition of cheating and mine might be a little different because I am poly.

You can have all my loyalty
I want your love, affection and trust sweetie

So, if I wanted to see other people, as well as you, would you be ok with that? Because that’s a lot for some people, especially if they’ve experienced being cheated on before.

See other people ?
What do you mean by that my queen

Do you know what polyamorous means?

Yes I know

I understand that, but I just still want your heart to belong to me

So, by seeing I mean dating or having a relationship with. I believe it’s possible to love more than one person at the same time. You would have to be ok with the possibility of that happening.

Okay but can I ask a question ?

Sure. Ask anything.

Do you also tell other you love them ?
Cause you telling someone you love them is not just a little expression
Hope you do understand me

If I fell in love with them, yes, I would tell them.

Hmmm

Tell me what you’re thinking. Good or bad.

I want you all for myself

I can’t promise that.

Why?

Because I can’t. If I meet someone I have a connection with, I want to be able to explore that. It might never happen. But I don’t want to make promises I can’t keep.

I love that, but what if you’re living with me

What if I am? One of my friends is married and poly. Living with someone, or being married to someone doesn’t stop you from being poly.

Yes I understand
And what will I do if I want to have you all for myself

That’s up to you. We can discuss it and work through it but it’s going to be an ongoing thing. Some poly people have very happy monogamous relationships. I don’t know what the future will hold. I’m just saying that if you want to be in a relationship with me, this is something you have to understand and accept about me, even if I never act on it.

I want to have the best relationship with you my Queen

And that might be monogamous or polyamorous. Who knows, maybe you find someone else who brings you joy and love?

You bring me joy and peace when I talk to you

That’s lovely. Thank you.

You’re welcome

But I need to know that you’ll be still full of joy and peace if I say, “hey, I met this guy and I’d really like to get to know him better.”

To be sincere, I won’t be filled with joy and peace

I don’t want to lie to you

And this is why I’m upfront about this. Because it’s really confronting for a lot of people.

How do you feel when you love me and I tell you I like this woman and I don’t want to talk to you again
I don’t want it

~ clearly he doesn't know what a polyamorous relationship looks like because this is not how it works ~

I want all of you
All of you 😍

I’ve been cheated on. I know how it feels to be left for someone else. It sucks. But that’s not what I would do. My feelings for someone else would not diminish any feelings I might have for you. It’s not either / or.

Yes but do you know some words or sentence can ?

I’m telling you this so you can make an informed decision about whether you want to continue with pursuing a romantic relationship with me or if you would prefer to stay friends, or even if you just want to cut your losses.

Do you think anything would come up and will stop me from loving you ?

NEVER !

~ of course there's nothing I could say to stop them loving me, because they don't love me in the first place. Words mean nothing, only actions ~

Ok, so you need to accept that I might date other people and I might love other people. If you’re going to be really unhappy. I would never do anything without telling you but I would be telling you, not asking permission.

This is fair

Ok, and if you have any other questions about this, please just ask. I’d rather have open and honest discussions than you feel overwhelmed and not know what’s going on. Even if it’s about my personal experiences. I’m happy to discuss anything.

Me too
Thank you for opening up to me

My pleasure.

~ I actually thought I'd scared him off with the poly talk but, as you can see, that wasn't the case ~

 

Tuesday 1:50pm

My Queen

Hi, just finished morning session at work. Going to have lunch.

Oh that’s good

Hope your day is going fine ?

Not too bad. How’s yours?

Good thanks for asking

You working today?

Yes

Anything interesting?

~ this doesn't get answered because he can't talk about a job he doesn't have, and isn't imaginative to come up with a way to use his own experiences in his actual job as a scammer to give a reasonable answer ~

 

Wednesday 9:50am

My Queen, I hope you’re doing well. I am checking in to make sure everything’s okay with you. I know things can get pretty busy, so I want to ensure that you take care of yourself. I’m here for you my Queen .

Awww, that’s sweet. Yes. Taking care of myself. Work is picking up now that school has gone back. Hope you’re not overdoing things, either.

 

Wednesday 3:53pm

No I’m not my sweet Queen

Thank you for asking

 

1:09 PM

My Queen

Evening. How has your week been?

Good dear
How are you doing ?

Slowly melting in the heat but apart from that, good.

Sorry babe

You’d think I’d be used to it by now, happens every year.

Okay babe

~ again, the abrupt change of subject. He can't just launch straight into the scam bit but hasn't got the grasp on English to be able to make a smooth conversational transfer. ~

My Queen, do you use Mygov?

~ now, this was a new one for me. MyGov is (and I'm quoting directly from the myGov website here) a simple and secure way to access government services online in one place. Almost everyone in Australia would have used myGov at some point ~

Why?

I just got a contract from a Company , held a call from them not quite long baby , this is a company I applied application job with long time ago
Baby this worth thousands deals and I was told to get my spouse or partner info in Australia or any country he / she is from to them , to enable them to affirm if they can deal with ms as Married or responsible person .
All I thought is you baby πŸ₯°πŸ₯°πŸ₯°πŸ₯°❣️ .

I’m not your spouse or partner, I’m not even your girlfriend.

I understand that my Queen
There’s no one I can think of except you

It’s just to make me get the contract

That’s all

And the contract worth over $90,000 babe

Why do they care if you’re married or have a stable relationship? In most countries it’s illegal to use that information as a basis for employment.

You know, just to know if I’m responsible baby
I understand
But it’s just the money to be paid into it
And that’s all
Babe I can make you have some for yourself or pay some of your bills
And this will even bring us closer to each other when I begin in Australia babe

What’s the name of the company?

It’s a Private ownership company owned by Mr Paul.
I’ve worked with him sometimes ago and now he has brought this contract to me

~ originally, I thought this guy was eastern European, but this answer (specifically the Mr Paul part) definitely gave my African vibes, and Nigeria isn't the stereotypical scammer country for no reason ~

I can make you have some certain amount to take care of your bills

The company would still have a name.

Hitachi
They deal with selling of construction equipments

~ This is a real company and this is what they do, but it does not have a single owner by the name of Paul (first or last name) ~

They seek for MyGov details to be given down in other for them to process down my application baby .

All I need is to trust from you and to have your total cooperation in order for them to disburse payment through your MyGov or either through your bank or mine baby , I want them to be assured of who I am dealing with as a partner . thats is the clarification of understanding in my work moves with them honey , This is a Company that has terms and conditions on all deals with any of their worker due to domestic violence and sanctions of any worker marital failure in the company .

If they are operating in Australia, then that is illegal. No company operating in Australia, or employing people in Australia, is allowed to even ask about marital status in an application, let alone mandate any information be given in that regard. They would be in big trouble for asking for the personal information, especially in regards to government or financial information.

They are not operating in Australia

Babe you don’t get me

I was on a call
I’m sorry I texted late

No, I don’t understand why any company needs the personal details of anyone they are not employing. They need your details. Not anyone else’s.

I’m not in Australia babe
It’s yours I’ll need and that’s where the money will be paid into
All I need is your trust babe

~ scammers love to play off trust. As humans, we want to trust people. We absolutely should only trust people who have earned it. I trust very few people. I do not trust anyone except my mother and my son with my financial affairs ~

you want any sharing or percentage from the deal , I m ready to give you 20% or any percentage you want , remitted from the company disbursement to you my love.

~ This is basically the same as the nigerian prince scam where they need to get funds out of a country and you get a cut for laundering their money. If it were actually going to happen, that's probably breaking a multitude of laws in various countries. It's not going to happen, they just want your details to either clean you out or apply for loans using your name and details, tanking your credit score and leaving you with debt collectors after you ~

I know you’re not in Australia. Why do they need my Australian info if you aren’t in Australia and the company isn’t in Australia and you won’t be working in Australia?

Sweetheart, immediately I get the contract, I will be moving to Australia
I will be working in Australia

And the contract will last 2 months babe

Ok, so if they are employing you in Australia they are governed by Australian employment laws and they would not be using my information.

No one is Employing me
The location I’ll be traveling to is Australia
The contract was awarded here in the USA
They wanted to make sure it’s a citizen of Australia info they need

That makes no sense whatsoever. A contract in the US would not require info from a citizen of a foreign country. Regardless of whether it’s an employment or any other form of contract.

~ so far this is as far as the conversation has gone. I think they might give it one more shot because normally, if they realise they're not getting anything out of you, they will either block you or just shut down the account and move on, neither of which has happened yet. I'll let you know if anything else happens, but don't hold your breath ~

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